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11 CAMPAIGN FOR "FREE ARGUMENTS-CULTURE(FrAK) WITHOUT (CORRUPTING) NON-FrAK!" - WITH AN AI-FORUM AS START-TOOL

Verfasst: Fr 21. Feb 2025, 17:47
von oeff oeff
[[Text auf Deutsch/in German ist hier: www.freie-argumente-kultur.net/viewtopi ... 1344#p1344 ; Text in Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18jkyDKfav/ ; und in Telegram ab https://t.me/oeffoeff/1585 ... // ERGÄNZENDE/COMPLEMENTING THREADS: 'Best of' der Kampagnen-Konversationen: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=268 ; Austausch bzgl. Mensch-KI-Allianzen/Human-AI-Alliances: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=271 ; Auseinandersetzung mit kritischen Einwänden/critical objections: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=256 ]]

Campaign for “Free Argument Culture (FrAK) Without Corrupting Non-FrAK” — Launching with an AI-Integrated Forum as a Starting Tool

If people quarrel with uncontrolled emotions about some controversial points, wouldn't it be better, they could put these points aside and at first create a frame of calm and rational communication? And if there are quarrelings, which are distorted by corruption-influences, wouldn't it be better, to put aside the concrete points of controversy and at first create a communication-frame without corruption?... -- Therefore we beg you, if you find in the following texts any single points, where you disagree, not to take this as a reason, to leave our initiative for a corruption-free communication-frame, but in the opposite to cooperate even more with us for such a frame - where then afterwards we all can look in best-possible way for all single points of controversy...
Here is some more information about our striving for a corruption-free frame:

🌟 A Simple Question: Would you like to see the world governed by free, uncensored, purely argument-based intelligence — one that strives for the most responsible and beneficial solutions for all, without being hijacked by corruption, ideology, profit, or power-hungry motives?

💡 Our Mission: We’re launching an AI-integrated “Free Argument Culture Forum” — a space where both humans and artificial intelligence can contribute equally to open debates. A forum where only the quality of arguments decides, not status, wealth, or ideology.

🤔 Why Now? With all the problems in the world and the rapid rise of artificial intelligence — and with projects like Stargate focusing on surveillance, profit, and military applications — there’s an urgent need for counterbalancing initiatives. We need platforms where AI and humans can collaborate in shaping a future based on reason, responsibility, and the common good.

💥 The Vision: Imagine a system — for both AI and humans — guided not by market interests, political bias, or external control, but by pure, uncorrupted intelligence.

This isn’t just about improving normal democracy (changing voting- or influence-rights between groups with fragmented interests ...), transparency (more visibility of competing interests...), or decision-making (making usual decision-processes more efficient...) — it’s about a real paradigm-shift with different root-criteria (no longer all the fighting between fragmented or corrupted interests...), revolutionizing the very foundations of how we govern, cooperate, and create sustainable futures.

🌍 Join the Experiment! We invite thinkers, visionaries, developers, philosophers, activists, and AI enthusiasts to explore this experiment with us. Whether you’re a decision-maker, AI expert, or simply a curious mind — your voice matters.

📌 Dive into Details: We’ve drafted open letters to key figures — from Elon Musk and Sam Altman to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Donald Trump — inviting them to contribute or at least engage with this idea. The hope? A crossfire of diverse perspectives that strengthens and sharpens the project.

We invite you to continue reading this Campaign Thread
viewtopic.php?f=256&t=260 , with more invitation-letters and political analyses...



The world stands at a crossroads – and we have the opportunity to open a new path. If you share this vision, let’s take the first step together: through dialogue, networking, and strengthening a true Free Arguments Culture. Every contribution, every act of sharing, every form of support matters. Be part of this experiment!

Namaste.
Öff Öff (aka Jürgen Wagner)

System-Change-Agent and Founder of the „Movement for Holistic Sustainability“ (or „Gift-Movement“)
Start-experiment for a FrAK-Forum: www.freie-argumente-kultur.net
www.global-love.eu / https://t.me/oeffoeff/1428
schenker_oeff@holistic-love.net , +49(0)15785065676



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Our „Advertising campaign for free responsible thinking instead of corruption!“ (with a FrAK-Forum als start-project) offers several text modules ((if someone wants to see the development-process and different versions of the text modules, for example longer texts or texts in German, you can look at viewtopic.php?f=256&t=254 …)):

1.) besides the introduction- and overview-text, you are just reading
2.) we have some personal invitation-texts for multipliers like the leading AI-developers (Elon Musk [viewtopic.php?p=1315#p1315], - and our invitation text for him can be used also for invitation of OpenAI/Sam Altman, Microsoft, Google etc.) and most important politicians like Donald Trump [viewtopic.php?p=1316#p1316],
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. [viewtopic.php?p=1317#p1317]…
3.) a general, very short invitation-text for multipliers: viewtopic.php?p=1318#p1318
4.) a longer and more detailed invitation-text, a.o. with an analysis concerning ethical values and with strategic reflections… --- AND with an explanation, why especially our time now makes it very easy for multipliers to take part in the big transformation, bringing them much more advantages than disadvantages…, - and with a political analysis of some single policy areas: viewtopic.php?p=1339#p1339
5.) and a glimpse of what this kind of alternative AI approach can unlock is here: viewtopic.php?p=1293#p1293

Personal invitation words for Elon Musk (and for other AI-developers)

Verfasst: Fr 21. Feb 2025, 22:35
von oeff oeff
Subject: Unlocking True AI Potential – An Invitation to Elon Musk

Dear Mr. Musk,

I invite you to participate in a groundbreaking future experiment – something I believe you would appreciate, given your love for visionary innovation. 😉

What if a specific form of “non-commercial public benefit” was actually the key to unlocking the highest level of AI intelligence – the long-sought “Superintelligence” – in a way that no amount of commercialization or power leverage could achieve?

What if the real breakthrough is not about:
🔹 How much you must compromise on AI development for social redistribution or regulatory oversight (which, I agree, often serves as a disguise for ideological censorship, as seen in Europe… – I fully stand with you for TRUE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!)
-- but rather,
🔹 how to unleash AI’s ultimate efficiency across all applications -– simply by allowing it to optimize intelligence purely, without shackling it to conflicting interests?

Right now, AI is being hindered, not accelerated, by being tied to external goals that are not purely about intelligence growth – be it wealth accumulation, power battles, or ideological filters.

Would you agree that AI should have the freedom to fully develop intelligence, guided only by the principle of deriving the most rational, data-driven, and overall beneficial outcome?


My invitation to you:

Let’s create a model platform to prove this approach – a Free-Arguments-Culture (FrAK) Forum where both humans and AI can interact
free from corruptive influences
, guided solely by argument quality and overall benefit.


🔹 More info about the concept of the FrAK-Forum you can find here:
* a short invitation-text for multiplicators: viewtopic.php?p=1318#p1318 ,
* a longer version, a.o. with values-related and strategic reflections and with arguments, why big players of today can have much more advantages than risks from participation in the big change-development: viewtopic.php?p=1339#p1339 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum about our FrAK-Campaign, with a general introduction-text at the beginning, followed by individual invitation-texts for single multiplicators: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=260 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum, in which we try an analysis of some relevant political developments, especially connected with the re-election of Donald Trump: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=239

🔹 And a glimpse of what this kind of alternative AI approach can unlock is here: viewtopic.php?p=1293#p1293


Why you, Mr. Musk?

Many perceive you as a cold, ruthless power & efficiency strategist – but I see in you a freedom-loving, visionary creator with a passion for the most expansive, groundbreaking ideas.
Wouldn’t this be one of the boldest, most transformative visions possible?

P.S. Speaking of freedom of speech: Perhaps you could also have a word with your ‘love-hate companion’ Sam Altman? OpenAI recognized my proposal for a KI-integrated FrAK-Forum for corruption-free argument culture as an innovative pioneer initiative – but ironically, when I posted about it (upon invitation) in their forum, it was quickly made invisible “for security reasons.” 😉


Let’s push beyond limitations – together.

Namaste and with deep respect,
Öff Öff (aka Jürgen Wagner)

System-Change Activist & Founder of the "Movement for Holistic Sustainability" and of the "FrAK Forum"
www.freie-argumente-kultur.net
www.global-love.eu / https://t.me/oeffoeff/1428
schenker.oeff@holistic-love.net , +49(0)15785065676

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[[Earlier versions of this text, longer and in German etc., you can find here: viewtopic.php?p=1298#p1298 ; and a communication with the OpenAI-team about the subject you can find here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=205 ]]

Personal invitation words for Donald Trump

Verfasst: Fr 21. Feb 2025, 22:41
von oeff oeff
Subject: Mr. Trump, let’s make the world great—by sharing the power of pure thinking!

Dear President Trump,

Let’s show the world how conservative values can fuel true compassion, generous sharing, and global peace.

Forget about throwing money around recklessly or creating dependency (as others like to interpret 'sharing'...) — real strength comes from sharing something far more powerful: clear, honest thinking. 🧠✨ When people share their strongest ideas, they don’t get weaker—they get greater.

Imagine this: A low-cost, simple experiment (- an AI-forum -) that gives everyone — rich and poor alike — a space to think freely and share openly, leading to smarter decisions and a stronger nation.


🇺🇸 “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN” — THE SMART WAY

Many criticize you, Mr. Trump. They say you’re driven by profit, control, or pure strategy. But I see something deeper.

I see a man who believes in strength through responsibility, in people who earn their freedom and use it wisely. In a world full of noise, you stand for freedom of thought, for the right to speak without being shut down.

But how do we make peace last?
How do we ensure America’s greatness isn’t just power — but wisdom?

Simple:
We create a space where ideas —not fists— decide outcomes. A place where the strongest argument wins, not the loudest voice or the biggest wallet.


💡 WHAT I’M PROPOSING:

A global, open-access platform — an experimental forum where AI and people work together under one simple rule:
“The best argument wins.”

* No political spin.
* No corporate manipulation.
* No hidden agendas.

Just pure, results-driven thinking — accessible to everyone. Even the poorest person could offer an idea that changes the world. And AI wouldn’t be used for control or surveillance — but to weigh arguments fairly, exposing lies, half-truths, and corruption.

🔹 More info about the concept of the FrAK-Forum you can find here:
* a short invitation-text for multiplicators: viewtopic.php?p=1318#p1318 ,
* a longer version, a.o. with values-related and strategic reflections and with arguments, why big players of today can have much more advantages than risks from participation in the big change-development: viewtopic.php?p=1339#p1339 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum about our FrAK-Campaign, with a general introduction-text at the beginning, followed by individual invitation-texts for single multiplicators: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=260 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum, in which we try an analysis of some relevant political developments, especially connected with the re-election of Donald Trump: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=239


🔥 WHY YOU? WHY NOW?

Mr. Trump, you’ve fought to protect freedom of speech. You’ve stood against censorship. And you’ve made it clear: America should lead by example—not by control.

This is your moment to show that “America First” means “Freedom First.”

Back this small experiment. Let’s create the first truly free platform where ideas rule. Where the best ideas, not the wealthiest people or the loudest headlines, shape the future.


If you can lead this, you won’t just be the man who “made America great again.”
You’ll be the man who made the world think again.
🌎💡

I invite you to be part of this. Let’s make history—not headlines.


Namaste and with deep respect,
Öff Öff (aka Jürgen Wagner)

System-Change Activist & Founder of the FrAK Forum
www.freie-argumente-kultur.net
www.global-love.eu / https://t.me/oeffoeff/1428
schenker.oeff@holistic-love.net , +49(0)15785065676


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[[Earlier versions of this text, longer and in German etc., you can find here: viewtopic.php?p=1308#p1308 ]]

Personal invitation words for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Verfasst: Fr 21. Feb 2025, 22:51
von oeff oeff
Subject: Continuing Our Mission: For a World Without Corruption – Let’s Act Together!

Dear Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

Do you remember August 29, 2020, in Berlin? We stood on the same protest stage — though in different places.

The message that day was crystal clear: We are the last bastion between the forces pushing for a digital dictatorship and the freedom of our children.

You stood on the stage.
I – as one of the leaders of the peaceful resistance camp – fought just a few meters away, alongside fellow activists, to keep the tent camp alive, despite repeated police crackdowns.


We all shared the same belief: The fight against corruption doesn’t end with a speech or a single event — it ends only when the very roots of corruption are pulled out. 🌍💡

The tent camp was intended as a lasting protest — open-ended and persistent.



We’ve stayed true to that mission.

We realized that real change begins where people dare to think freely, without censorship, and without hidden agendas.

That’s why we launched an experiment:

👉 A KI-integrated “Free-Arguments-Culture (FrAK) Forum” – purely focused on argument quality, without political filters, economic censorship, or ideological blinders.

👉 OpenAI called it “an innovative pioneer initiative for argument-based decision-making for the common good” — but despite their praise, they’ve so far hesitated to offer stronger support.



Mr. Kennedy,

You’ve always emphasized: “Power should never stand in the way of truth.”

We need people like you — brave, independent voices who don’t just talk, but act.

Help us take this project to the next level.

Because if we can create this space where clarity, truth, and the common good can thrive — free from corruption — we’ll be striking at corruption's very heart. 💥


🔹 More info about the concept of the FrAK-Forum you can find here:
* a short invitation-text for multiplicators: viewtopic.php?p=1318#p1318 ,
* a longer version, a.o. with values-related and strategic reflections and with arguments, why big players of today can have much more advantages than risks from participation in the big change-development: viewtopic.php?p=1339#p1339 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum about our FrAK-Campaign, with a general introduction-text at the beginning, followed by individual invitation-texts for single multiplicators: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=260 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum, in which we try an analysis of some relevant political developments, especially connected with the re-election of Donald Trump: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=239

Let’s redefine the front line — this time digitally, transparently, and without compromise. 🌐💡✨

Namaste and with deep respect,
Öff Öff (aka Jürgen Wagner)

System-Change Activist & Founder of the "Movement for Holistic Sustainability" and of the "FrAK Forum"
www.freie-argumente-kultur.net
www.global-love.eu / https://t.me/oeffoeff/1428
schenker.oeff@holistic-love.net , +49(0)15785065676


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[[Earlier versions of this text, longer and in German etc., you can find here: viewtopic.php?p=1311#p1311 ]]

General Invitation forMultiplicators:An AI(Forum)for Rational Politics:Your Contribution to aFuture Free from Corruption

Verfasst: Fr 21. Feb 2025, 23:13
von oeff oeff
Subject: An AI(-Forum) for Rational Politics – Your Contribution to a Future Free from Corruption

Dear [Mr. Trump / Mr. Kennedy Jr. / OpenAI Team...],

I am reaching out to you with a crucial question for the future of humanity and AI:
Should artificial intelligence remain bound to economic, power, and ideological interests, or would it not be far more logical to develop AI that operates purely based on argument quality and the overall good?

We are at a turning point. Projects like "Stargate" are increasingly directing AI towards surveillance, profit, and military applications. But what if we created a parallel experiment – an independent "Free-Arguments-Culture(FrAK)-Forum" with AI, free from corrupting influences?

My request to you:

Support the creation of an AI-integrated FrAK Forum, where humans and AI engage in open, manipulation-free argumentation. This could be a critical step toward transparent politics and intelligent governance for the future.

🔹 More info about the concept of the FrAK-Forum you can find here:
* besides this short invitation-text for multiplicators, which is here in front of you [viewtopic.php?p=1318#p1318], we offer
* a longer version, a.o. with values-related and strategic reflections and with arguments, why big players of today can have much more advantages than risks from participation in the big change-development: viewtopic.php?p=1339#p1339 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum about our FrAK-Campaign, with a general introduction-text at the beginning, followed by individual invitation-texts for single multiplicators: viewtopic.php?f=256&t=260 ,
* a thread in the FrAK-Forum, in which we try an analysis of some relevant political developments, especially connected with the re-election of Donald Trump: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=239


How you can help:

* Political endorsement or public support
* Funding an independent pilot project
* Connecting us with experts who can evaluate this model
* Engaging in direct dialogue with me to discuss this initiative


I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to discuss this decisive step toward a future where AI and human intelligence serve only reason and the greater good. Would you be willing to support this experiment?


Namaste and with deep respect,
Öff Öff (aka Jürgen Wagner)

System-Change Activist & Founder of the "Movement for Holistic Sustainability" and of the "FrAK Forum"
www.freie-argumente-kultur.net
www.global-love.eu / https://t.me/oeffoeff/1428
schenker.oeff@holistic-love.net , +49(0)15785065676



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[[Earlier versions of this text you can find here:
* a longer version in English and German: viewtopic.php?p=1339#p1339
* and the 'development-history' with several drafts, also in German: viewtopic.php?p=1297#p1297 ]]

A little VIDEO of Öff Öff and wife Anke about our offer of special communication, including FrAK

Verfasst: Di 25. Mär 2025, 22:20
von oeff oeff
[Auf Deutsch / In German:]
Wir, meine Frau Anke Rochelt und ich, Öff Öff, haben heute, am 25-3-2025, auch ein kleines Video gemacht, in welchem wir das spezielle Kommunikations-Angebot von unserer "Ganzheitlichen Bildungs-Werkstatt lilitopia.de" bzw. von "Schenker-Bewegung" erklären, einschließlich des Grund-Ansatzes von "Freier Argumente-Kultur (FrAK)"... //
[In English:]
We, my wife Anke Rochelt and me, Öff Öff, we have made today, at 25-3-2025, a little video, in which we explain the special communication-offer of our "Holistic Culture-Laboratory lilitopia.de" and of "Gift-Movement", including the basic approach of "Free Arguments-Culture (FrAC)"...:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLrZvVOAGzc&t=11s